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Confidential memo to the Presiding Committee of the National Defence of Constantinople, by which its author informs about conversations he had with the Chief of Staff of the British Military Headquarters and the Secretary of the Commission, Mr. Kkoch, who discussed with him, among other things, the possibility of intervention by the Defence Forces, supported by the British, in order to change the status in Asia Minor and ends with his conclusions based on those meetings.

Φ.22.001.149 · Ιουύνιος 3/16 · Ελληνική · machine-generated, not reviewed

Archivist's abstract & metadata
Title (el)
Απόρρητο σημείωμα προς το Προεδρείο της Εθνικής Αμύνης Κωνσταντινουπόλεως, με το οποίο ο συντάκτης ενημερώνει σχετικά με συνομιλίες που είχε του με τον επιτελάρχη του Αγγλικού Στρατηγείου και τον γραμματέα της Αρμοστείας κ. Κκοχ, οι οποίοι τον βολιδοσκόπησαν μεταξύ αλλών για το ενδεχόμενο επέμβασης των Αμυνιτών με υποστήριξη των Άγγλων προς μετατροπή του καθεστώτος στη Μικρά Ασία και καταλήγει με τα συμπεράσματά του με βάση αυτές τις συναντήσεις του.
Archivist's abstract
A confidential memorandum to the Presidium of the National Defence (movement) of Constantinople (Istanbul), in which the writer reports on conversations with the Chief of Staff of the English General Headquarters and with Mr Kkoch, Secretary of the High Commission. Among other things, they sounded the writer out on the possibility of an intervention by the members of the National Defence (movement), with English support, to change the regime in Asia Minor. The memorandum ends with the writer's conclusions drawn from these meetings.
Document type
Σημείωμα
Original/copy
Πρωτότυπο
Recipients
Προεδρείο της Εθνικής Αμύνης Κωνσταντινουπόλεως
Mentioned
Κονδύλης Γεώργιος
Keywords
Entente · Σχέσεις της Ελλάδας με την Entente · Μικρασιατική Εκστρατεία (1919-1922) · Εθνική Άμυνα Κωνσταντινουπόλεως
Subjects
Πόλεμος · Εθνικά ζητήματα
Source
https://venizelosarchives.gr/show/164312 · Europeana
Licence
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/ · Accessed 2026-11-09

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Φ.22.001.149 p. 4

Original text (diplomatic transcription)

OCR: needs review · claude/opus · Agreement of two readings 0.90

ἔχῃ τι καὶ μεγαλυτέραν αὐθόρμησιν, παρου- σιάζεται πολὺ περισσότερον ἐπιφυλακτική. † Δὲν παύει ὅμως νὰ μᾶς ἐκπλήξῃ τὸ γεγονὸς ὅτι αἱ στρατιωτικαὶ ἀρχαὶ ἔδειξαν μεγάλην πρωτοβουλίαν, τοῦτο δὲ σύμφωνον μὲ τὰς […] ἀγγλικὰς παραδόσεις, ἡ ἀγγλικὴ Κυβέρνησις ἀφίνει πολὺ μεγάλην πρωτοβουλίαν εἰς τὰ διάφορα ὄργανα αὐτῆς, χωρὶς νὰ θεωρήσῃ ὅτι τὰ διαβήματα αὐτῶν τὴν δεσμεύουν ἀναγκαστικῶς. Τοιαῦτα παραδείγματα πολλὰ μᾶς ἔχουν παρουσιάσει κατὰ τὴν τελευταίαν τετραετίαν. † Εἶχα μάλιστα καὶ τὴν ἐντύπωσιν ὅτι ὁ Γραμματεὺς τῆς Ἀρμοστείας ἦτο στενοχωρη- μένος διότι ἐφοβεῖτο ὅτι τὸ Στρατηγεῖον αἴφνης προχωρήσῃ παρα-πολὺ εἰς τὰς συνεννοήσεις του μετὰ τῶν ἐξωτερικῶν τῆς Ἀμύνης καὶ ὅτι ἐπεθύμει νὰ ἀπαγ- γέλῃ […] αὐτὸν […] […] τὸ Στρατηγεῖον.

Stamps and notes

  • handwritten_note πολὺ interlinear above περισσότερον, line 2
  • handwritten_note ἀγγλικὰς interlinear above the struck-through word, line 6
  • handwritten_note † end of line 2, a reference mark for the note at the bottom of the page
  • handwritten_note ⟦…⟧ interlinear insertion above the struck-through word in the last line but one of the note
  • other portrait watermark of Eleftherios Venizelos (Foundation logo) bottom right
  • other two punched filing holes right margin

Uncertain readings

  • ἔχῃ τι opening words of the page, letter forms unclear
  • αὐθόρμησιν word after μεγαλυτέραν; reading doubtful
  • παύει verb after Δὲν; could be another verb
  • … struck-through word before ἀγγλικάς; ἀγγλικὰς written above it as a correction
  • τετραετίαν could be τριετίαν
  • στενοχωρη- hyphenated across the line with μένος; reading probable
  • αἴφνης first word of the line, unclear
  • ἐξωτερικῶν word after μετὰ τῶν, doubtful
  • Ἀμύνης could be another noun such as Σμύρνης or εἰρήνης
  • … word after ἀπαγ-γέλῃ, illegible
  • … struck-through word (τῷ?) with an interlinear insertion above it (ἐξ…ρχῆς?), illegible
  • … word before τὸ Στρατηγεῖον, illegible

Demotic Greek

έχει κάτι και μεγαλύτερη αυθορμησία, παρουσιάζεται πολύ περισσότερο επιφυλακτική. † Δεν παύει όμως να μας εκπλήσσει το γεγονός ότι οι στρατιωτικές αρχές έδειξαν μεγάλη πρωτοβουλία· αυτό όμως συμφωνεί με τις […] αγγλικές παραδόσεις: η αγγλική Κυβέρνηση αφήνει πολύ μεγάλη πρωτοβουλία στα διάφορα όργανά της, χωρίς να θεωρεί ότι οι ενέργειές τους τη δεσμεύουν αναγκαστικά. Πολλά τέτοια παραδείγματα μάς έχουν παρουσιαστεί κατά την τελευταία τετραετία. † Είχα μάλιστα και την εντύπωση ότι ο Γραμματέας της Αρμοστείας ήταν στενοχωρημένος διότι φοβόταν ότι το Στρατηγείο ξαφνικά να προχωρήσει πάρα πολύ στις συνεννοήσεις του με τους εξωτερικούς της Άμυνας και ότι επιθυμούσε να αναγγείλει […] αυτόν […] […] το Στρατηγείο.

Turkish

bir şeye sahip olsa ve daha büyük kendiliğindenlik, çok daha ihtiyatlı görünmektedir. † Yine de askerî makamların büyük bir inisiyatif göstermiş olması bizi şaşırtmaktan geri durmaz; bu da […] İngiliz geleneklerine uygundur: İngiliz hükûmeti çeşitli organlarına çok büyük bir inisiyatif bırakır, onların girişimlerinin kendisini zorunlu olarak bağladığını düşünmeksizin. Bunun birçok örneğini son dört yıl içinde bize sundular. † Hatta Yüksek Komiserlik Sekreteri'nin sıkıntılı olduğu izlenimine bile kapıldım, çünkü Karargâh'ın, Millî Müdafaa (Ulusal Savunma) hareketinin dış temsilcileriyle yaptığı anlaşmalarda birdenbire çok ileri gitmesinden korkuyordu ve […] bunu […] […] Karargâh'a bildirmek istiyordu.

English

has some and greater spontaneity, it appears much more reserved. † It does not, however, cease to surprise us that the military authorities showed great initiative; this is in keeping with […] English traditions: the English Government leaves very great initiative to its various organs, without considering that their démarches necessarily bind it. Many such examples have been presented to us during the last four years. † I even had the impression that the Secretary of the High Commission was distressed because he feared that the General Headquarters might suddenly go too far in its understandings with the external [members] of the Defence, and that he wished to report […] him […] […] the General Headquarters.

Open issues

p.KindLanguageTextDetail
abstract_mismatchαμυνιτων, κωνσταντινουπολεωσ, μικραnames in the archivist's title or abstract not found in the transcription
4uncertain_readingἔχῃ τιopening words of the page, letter forms unclear
4uncertain_readingαὐθόρμησινword after μεγαλυτέραν; reading doubtful
4uncertain_readingπαύειverb after Δὲν; could be another verb
4uncertain_reading…struck-through word before ἀγγλικάς; ἀγγλικὰς written above it as a correction
4uncertain_readingτετραετίανcould be τριετίαν
4uncertain_readingστενοχωρη-hyphenated across the line with μένος; reading probable
4uncertain_readingαἴφνηςfirst word of the line, unclear
4uncertain_readingἐξωτερικῶνword after μετὰ τῶν, doubtful
4uncertain_readingἈμύνηςcould be another noun such as Σμύρνης or εἰρήνης
4uncertain_reading…word after ἀπαγ-γέλῃ, illegible
4uncertain_reading…struck-through word (τῷ?) with an interlinear insertion above it (ἐξ…ρχῆς?), illegible
4uncertain_reading…word before τὸ Στρατηγεῖον, illegible
4ocr_reviewconfidence 0.40; 12 uncertain spans in 109 words; agreement of two readings 0.90
4translation_uncertain_sourceelἀπαγγέλῃΗ λέξη είναι ασαφής (ίσως «ἀπαγγείλῃ», δηλ. αναγγείλει/αναφέρει, ή άλλη λέξη)· αποδόθηκε «να αναγγείλει». Η υποσημείωση είναι σε μεγάλο μέρος αλλοιωμένη και το «προχωρήσῃ» στην πηγή στερείται «νὰ».
4translation_uncertain_sourcetrΔὲν παύει ὅμως νὰ μᾶς ἐκπλήξῃBelirsiz okuma ⟦παύει⟧ nedeniyle anlam çelişkili olabilir: sonraki cümle İngiliz geleneğine atıfla bunu doğal gösterdiğinden, asıl metin 'bizi şaşırtmamalıdır' anlamında olabilir. Kelime anlamıyla aktarıldı.
4translation_uncertain_sourcetr† ... ἐξωτερικῶν τῆς ἈμύνηςDipnotun sonu büyük ölçüde okunamıyor; kime ne bildirilmek istendiği anlaşılmıyor. 'ἐξωτερικῶν' (dış/dışarıdaki) sözcüğünün neyi nitelediği belirsiz.
4translation_termen†The dagger marks a footnote attached to the preceding sentence; reproduced as in the source.
4translation_uncertain_sourceenτετραετίανUncertain reading; 'last four years' is a tentative translation.
4translation_uncertain_sourceenἐξωτερικῶνProbably 'external (members)' or 'outside (representatives)' of the Defence; the noun is missing in the source. Tentative.
4translation_uncertain_sourceenΔὲν παύει ὅμως νὰ μᾶς ἐκπλήξῃLiterally 'it does not cease to surprise us'. The following sentence says such initiative accords with English tradition, so the sense may be 'it should not surprise us'; the literal reading is kept.