Confidential memo to the Presiding Committee of the National Defence of Constantinople, by which its author informs about conversations he had with the Chief of Staff of the British Military Headquarters and the Secretary of the Commission, Mr. Kkoch, who discussed with him, among other things, the possibility of intervention by the Defence Forces, supported by the British, in order to change the status in Asia Minor and ends with his conclusions based on those meetings.
Φ.22.001.149 · Ιουύνιος 3/16 · Ελληνική · machine-generated, not reviewed
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Σημείωμα.
Ἔχω τὴν τιμὴν νὰ ἐκθέσω ἐγγράφως εἰς τὸ Προ-
εδρεῖον τῆς Ἐθνικῆς Ἀμύνης τὰ συμπεράσμα-
τα εἰς τὰ ὁποῖα ἔχω φθάσει, κατόπιν τῶν
τελευταίων συνομιλιῶν μου μετὰ τοῦ Συνταγματάρχου
τῷ Ἐπιτελάρχου τοῦ Ἀγγλικοῦ Στρα-
τηγείου καὶ τοῦ κ. Κοχ γραμματέως τῆς Ἀρμο-
στείας.
1/ Ὁ Συνταγματάρχης μετὰ τοῦ ὁποίου, ὅπως γνωρίζει
τὸ Συμβούλιον, εἶχον καὶ προηγουμένως φιλίαν,
σχέσιν μὲ τὴν ἐνδεχομένην χρησιμοποίησιν
τῶν Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν τῆς Ἀμύνης τόσον διὰ
τὴν τοπικὴν ἄμυναν, ὅσον καὶ γενικώτερον,
μὲ ἐκάλεσε […] εἰς πρόγευμα μὲ
τὸν Συνταγματάρχην κ. Κοδέζην πρὸ 15 ἡμερῶν
περίπου, καὶ συνεζήτησε μεθ' ἡμῶν ἐπὶ δύο
ὥρας περίπου, περὶ ἐνδεχομένης ἐπεμβάσεως
μας πρὸς μετατροπὴν τοῦ καθεστῶτος εἰς Μ.
Ἀσίαν, τοῦ τρόπου τῆς ἐκτελέσεως, τῆς συνεννοή-
σεως μεθ' ὡρισμένων προσώπων εἰς Ἀ-
θήνας καὶ κατέληξε δηλῶν ὅτι μετὰ μίαν
ἢ δύο ἑβδομάδας, μόλις ἐπιστρέψῃ ὁ Στρα-
τηγός, θὰ μᾶς γνωρίσῃ ἐὰν ἡ Κυβέρνησίς
του ἐγκρίνῃ μίαν τοιαύτην ἐνέργειαν,
ἐὰν τὴν ὑποστηρίζῃ ἢ ἐὰν ἀδιαφορεῖ.
Αἱ λεπτομέρειαι τῆς συζητήσεως οὐδεμίαν ἔ-
χουν σημασίαν, ἀρκεῖ μόνον νὰ γνωρίσῃ
τὸ Προεδρεῖον ὅτι εἴπαμεν εἰς τὸν Συνταγ-
ὅτι κατὰ τὴν γνώμην μας, μόνον ἐὰν ἔχῃ
Stamps and notes
- handwritten_note Ἀπόρρητον διὰ ⟦τὰ μέλη τοῦ Προεδρείου⟧. top left, slanted over three lines
- handwritten_note 3/16 Ἰουνίου. top right
- archival 001.149 top right, below date, pencil
- other Watermark: portrait (Eleftherios K. Venizelos Foundation logo) bottom right
- other Two punch holes left margin
Uncertain readings
- Κοχ proper name; the catalogue gives 'Κκοχ'; letters unclear
- φιλίαν end of line, reading doubtful
- σχέσιν first word of line, reading doubtful
- Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν long word, only partially legible
- Ἀμύνης reading doubtful
- μὲ ἐκάλεσε start of line, doubtful
- … illegible word before 'εἰς πρόγευμα'
- Κοδέζην proper name, letters uncertain
- πρὸς μετατροπὴν reading doubtful
- ἔχῃ last word obscured by the foundation watermark
- Ἀπόρρητον διὰ τὰ μέλη τοῦ Προεδρείου marginal note at top left, slanted; partly conjectural
Demotic Greek
Σημείωμα.
Έχω την τιμή να εκθέσω γραπτώς στο Προεδρείο της Εθνικής Άμυνας τα συμπεράσματα στα οποία έχω καταλήξει, έπειτα από τις τελευταίες συνομιλίες μου με τον Συνταγματάρχη, τον Επιτελάρχη του Αγγλικού Στρατηγείου και με τον κ. Κοχ, γραμματέα της Αρμοστείας.
1/ Ο Συνταγματάρχης, με τον οποίο, όπως γνωρίζει το Συμβούλιο, είχα και προηγουμένως φιλία, σχέση με την ενδεχόμενη χρησιμοποίηση των Κωνσταντινουπολιτών της Άμυνας τόσο για την τοπική άμυνα όσο και γενικότερα, με κάλεσε […] σε πρόγευμα με τον Συνταγματάρχη κ. Κοδέζη πριν από 15 ημέρες περίπου, και συζήτησε μαζί μας επί δύο ώρες περίπου για ενδεχόμενη επέμβασή μας προς μετατροπή του καθεστώτος στη Μ[ικρά] Ασία, για τον τρόπο της εκτέλεσης, για τη συνεννόηση με ορισμένα πρόσωπα στην Αθήνα, και κατέληξε δηλώνοντας ότι ύστερα από μία ή δύο εβδομάδες, μόλις επιστρέψει ο Στρατηγός, θα μας γνωστοποιήσει αν η Κυβέρνησή του εγκρίνει μια τέτοια ενέργεια, αν την υποστηρίζει ή αν αδιαφορεί.
Οι λεπτομέρειες της συζήτησης δεν έχουν καμία σημασία· αρκεί μόνο να γνωρίζει το Προεδρείο ότι είπαμε στον Συνταγ- ότι κατά τη γνώμη μας, μόνο εάν έχει
Turkish
Not.
Millî Müdafaa (Ulusal Savunma) hareketi Başkanlığı'na, Albay ile İngiliz Karargâhı Kurmay Başkanı ve Yüksek Komiserlik sekreteri Bay Koch ile yaptığım son görüşmelerin ardından vardığım sonuçları yazılı olarak arz etmek şerefine sahibim.
1/ Konsey'in bildiği üzere daha önce de kendisiyle dostluğum ve ilişkim bulunan, Millî Müdafaa (Ulusal Savunma) hareketinin İstanbul (Konstantinopolis) üyelerinin hem yerel savunma için hem de daha genel olarak olası kullanımı konusunda görüştüğüm Albay, beni davet etti […] yaklaşık 15 gün önce Albay Bay Kodezis ile birlikte kahvaltıya; bizimle yaklaşık iki saat boyunca, Anadolu'daki (Küçük Asya) rejimin değiştirilmesi için olası bir müdahalemizi, uygulama biçimini ve Atina'daki belirli kişilerle anlaşmayı görüştü ve sonunda, bir ya da iki hafta sonra, General döner dönmez, hükûmetinin böyle bir eylemi onaylayıp onaylamadığını, destekleyip desteklemediğini ya da kayıtsız kalıp kalmadığını bize bildireceğini belirtti.
Görüşmenin ayrıntılarının hiçbir önemi yoktur; Başkanlığın yalnızca şunu bilmesi yeterlidir: Albay'a, bizim görüşümüze göre, yalnızca eğer
English
Memorandum.
I have the honour to set out in writing for the Presidium of the National Defence (movement) the conclusions I have reached following my most recent conversations with the Colonel, Chief of Staff of the English General Headquarters, and with Mr Koch, Secretary of the High Commission.
1/ The Colonel, with whom, as the Council knows, I previously had friendship, relations concerning the possible employment of the men of Constantinople (Istanbul) of the Defence, both for local defence and more generally, invited me […] to lunch, together with Colonel Kodezis, about 15 days ago, and discussed with us for about two hours a possible intervention by us for the alteration of the regime in Asia Minor, the manner of its execution, and an understanding with certain persons in Athens. He concluded by declaring that in one or two weeks, as soon as the General returns, he would inform us whether his Government approves such an action, whether it supports it, or whether it is indifferent.
The details of the discussion have no importance; it suffices that the Presidium know that we said to the Colonel that, in our opinion, only if it has
Open issues
| p. | Kind | Language | Text | Detail |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| abstract_mismatch | αμυνιτων, κωνσταντινουπολεωσ, μικρα | names in the archivist's title or abstract not found in the transcription | ||
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Κοχ | proper name; the catalogue gives 'Κκοχ'; letters unclear | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | φιλίαν | end of line, reading doubtful | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | σχέσιν | first word of line, reading doubtful | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν | long word, only partially legible | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Ἀμύνης | reading doubtful | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | μὲ ἐκάλεσε | start of line, doubtful | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | … | illegible word before 'εἰς πρόγευμα' | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Κοδέζην | proper name, letters uncertain | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | πρὸς μετατροπὴν | reading doubtful | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ἔχῃ | last word obscured by the foundation watermark | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Ἀπόρρητον διὰ τὰ μέλη τοῦ Προεδρείου | marginal note at top left, slanted; partly conjectural | |
| 1 | ocr_review | confidence 0.40; 10 uncertain spans in 179 words; agreement of two readings 0.91 | ||
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | el | Συνταγματάρχου τῷ Ἐπιτελάρχου | Η πηγή είναι συντακτικά ασαφής (πιθανώς «τοῦ Συνταγματάρχου, τοῦ Ἐπιτελάρχου»). Αποδόθηκε ως «τον Συνταγματάρχη, τον Επιτελάρχη»· δεν είναι σαφές αν πρόκειται για ένα ή δύο πρόσωπα. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | el | Μ. Ἀσίαν | Αναπτύχθηκε ως Μ[ικρά] Ασία. |
| 1 | translation_term | el | Ἀμύνης | Χωρίς το «Εθνικής»· αποδόθηκε «Άμυνας». Πιθανόν συντομογραφία της Εθνικής Άμυνας, αλλά δεν είναι βέβαιο. Το ίδιο και στη σελ. 4. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | el | Συνταγ-/ὅτι κατὰ τὴν γνώμην μας, μόνον ἐὰν ἔχῃ … ἡ Ἀγγλία νὰ μᾶς ὑποστηρίξῃ | Το χωρίο στο τέλος της σελ. 1 και στην αρχή της σελ. 2 είναι αλλοιωμένο (επανάληψη «Συνταγ-/ὅτι», αβέβαιο «ἔχῃ»)· το νόημα πιθανώς «μόνο εάν η Αγγλία μας υποστηρίξει». Αποδόθηκε κατά λέξη. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | Κοχ / Κκοχ | Sekreterin adı sayfa 1'de ⟦Κοχ⟧ (belirsiz okuma), sonraki sayfalarda Κκοχ biçiminde yazılmış; muhtemelen aynı kişi (Koch). Kaynaktaki yazım farkı korunarak Koch / Kkoch olarak aktarıldı. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | τοῦ Συνταγματάρχου τῷ Ἐπιτελάρχου τοῦ Ἀγγλικοῦ Στρατηγείου | 'τῷ' kaynakta bozuk görünüyor (muhtemelen 'τοῦ' veya 'καὶ'); 'Albay ile Kurmay Başkanı' ayrı kişiler mi, yoksa Albay aynı zamanda Kurmay Başkanı mı belirsiz. Sayfa 1'deki 'Συνταγματάρχης' ile sayfa 2'deki 'Συνταγματάρχης Κονδύλης'in aynı kişi olup olmadığı da belirsizdir. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | Κοδέζην | Belirsiz okunan özel ad; yalın hali muhtemelen Κοδέζης (Kodezis). |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | ὅτι κατὰ τὴν γνώμην μας, μόνον ἐὰν ἔχῃ / ἡ Ἀγγλία νὰ μᾶς ὑποστηρίξῃ | Cümle sayfa sınırında bölünüyor; 'ὅτι' kaynakta iki kez geçiyor ('εἴπαμεν εἰς τὸν Συνταγ-' ile 'ὅτι κατὰ…'), cümle yapısı bozuk. ⟦ἔχῃ⟧ belirsiz; anlam 'İngiltere bizi destekleyecekse' olarak aktarıldı. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | tr | Μ. Ἀσίαν | Μ[ικρὰν] Ἀσίαν şeklinde açılıp sözlüğe göre Anadolu (Küçük Asya) olarak verildi. |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | Ἀμύνης / Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν | 'Ἄμυνα' tek başına, Ἐθνικὴ Ἄμυνα (Millî Müdafaa hareketi) için kısaltma olarak anlaşıldı. 'Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν' = İstanbul'daki (Konstantinopolis) hareket mensupları/İstanbullular. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | Συνταγματάρχου τῷ Ἐπιτελάρχου | The transcription reads 'of the Colonel, to the Chief of Staff', which is ungrammatical; probably a slip for 'the Colonel, Chief of Staff'. Translated accordingly. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | Κοχ / Κκοχ | The Secretary's name appears as ⟦Κοχ⟧ here (uncertain reading) and as Κκοχ on pages 2–3 and in the catalogue title. Probably the same person (Koch); rendered 'Koch' here and 'Kkoch' elsewhere, following the source spelling. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | Κοδέζην | Uncertain reading of a Colonel's name. Page 2 names a Colonel Kondylis as reporting the conversation, so this may be a misreading of Κονδύλης; not verified. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Προεδρεῖον | Rendered 'Presidium' (the presiding body of the organisation); 'Presidency' or 'Presiding Committee' are possible alternatives. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Ἀρμοστεία | Rendered 'High Commission' (the Allied/British High Commissioner's office at Constantinople). The corresponding official is 'High Commissioner'. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Στρατηγεῖον | Rendered 'General Headquarters'; the context is the English military command in Constantinople. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Ἀμύνης / Ἀμυνιτῶν | Standing alone, 'Ἀμύνης' is a short form of the National Defence organisation; kept as 'Defence' within uncertain marks since the glossary term is for the full name. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Κωνσταντινουπολιτῶν | Adjectival/demonym form not in the glossary; rendered 'Constantinopolitans' (inhabitants of Constantinople (Istanbul)), within uncertain marks. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | εἴπαμεν εἰς τὸν Συνταγ- / ὅτι κατὰ τὴν γνώμην μας, μόνον ἐὰν ἔχῃ | The transcription repeats 'ὅτι' after the line break and the clause 'only if ⟦it has⟧ England to support us' is syntactically awkward, probably due to a transcription or typing error. Translated as best as possible. |