Telegram from E. Venizelos to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding his discussion with the English Minister of Foreign Affairs on the issue of reparations to Turkey from Greece.
173.036.54 · 1923 Μάρτιος 27 · Ελληνική · machine-generated, not reviewed
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Original text (diplomatic transcription)
OCR: needs review · claude/opus · Agreement of two readings 0.90
ποζημιώσεων ὅπως ρυθμισθῇ
δι' ἰδιαιτέρων συνεννοήσεων Ἑλλάδος
καὶ Τουρκίας. Τοιαύτη λύσις βεβαίως
δὲν εἶναι ἐνθαρρυντικὴ ἀλλὰ δὲν ἀπο-
[…] ἡ […] ὅτι αἱ Δυνάμεις
ἐὰν συμφωνήσουν μετὰ Τουρκίας
ἐπὶ λοιπῶν σημείων θὰ ἀρνηθῶσιν
ὑπογραφὴν εἰρήνης […] ἕνεκα
ζητήματος ἀποζημιώσεων ἢ πο-
σοῦ […] […] ἐπι-
λήψεων μου […] […] […]
[…] μου.
Βενιζέλος
Stamps and notes
- letterhead Ritz Hotel. Piccadilly. London, W. 1. left margin, printed in green, running vertically
- letterhead RITZ HOTEL LONDON left margin, printed green crest with lion
- letterhead TELEGRAPHIC ADDRESS RITZOTEL LONDON left margin, printed in green, vertical, beside the crest
- stamp ΜΠΗ lower right, circular grey Benaki Museum collection stamp
Uncertain readings
- ὅπως line 1, second word; could also be ὅσον
- ρυθμισθῇ line 1, last word; tentative reading
- ἀπο- line 4, end of line; word divided across lines 4–5, reading uncertain
- … line 5, first word (ending in -σει), continuation of the divided word; illegible
- … line 5, word after ἡ; illegible (possibly a noun followed by μου)
- λοιπῶν line 7, second word
- θὰ line 7, short word before the last word; tentative
- ἀρνηθῶσιν line 7, last word; tentative
- ὑπογραφὴν line 8, first word; tentative
- … line 8, a word struck through by the writer; illegible under the deletion
- ἕνεκα line 8, last word, after the deleted word
- ζητήματος line 9, first word; tentative
- σοῦ line 10, first syllables, continuation of πο-; tentative
- … line 10, two words illegible; there is a caret or insertion mark between them
- ἐπι- line 10, end of line, word divided across lines 10–11
- λήψεων line 11, first word; tentative
- … line 11, three words after μου illegible
- … line 12, first word illegible
- Βενιζέλος signature; cursive, read from the expected signatory and letter shapes
Demotic Greek
αποζημιώσεων ώστε να ρυθμιστεί με ιδιαίτερες συνεννοήσεις Ελλάδας και Τουρκίας. Μια τέτοια λύση βέβαια δεν είναι ενθαρρυντική, αλλά δεν απο-[…] η […] ότι οι Δυνάμεις, αν συμφωνήσουν με την Τουρκία για τα υπόλοιπα σημεία, θα αρνηθούν την υπογραφή της ειρήνης […] εξαιτίας του ζητήματος των αποζημιώσεων ή του ποσού […] […] επι-λήψεων μου […] […] […] […] μου.
Βενιζέλος
Turkish
tazminatların düzenlenmesi için Yunanistan ile Türkiye arasında özel görüşmeler yoluyla. Böyle bir çözüm elbette cesaret verici değildir, ancak […] […] […] değil ki Devletler, eğer Türkiye ile diğer noktalar üzerinde anlaşırlarsa o takdirde barış imzasını […] tazminat meselesi ya da miktarı yüzünden reddedeceklerdir […] […] […] […] benim […] […] […] […] benim.
Venizelos
English
of indemnities so that it be settled
by separate understandings between Greece
and Turkey. Such a solution is certainly
not encouraging, but it is not ruled out
[…] the […] that the Powers,
if they agree with Turkey
on the remaining points, will refuse
the signature of peace […] on account of
the question of indemnities or of the
amount […] […]
views my […] […] […]
[…] my.
Venizelos
Open issues
| p. | Kind | Language | Text | Detail |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| abstract_mismatch | αγγλο | names in the archivist's title or abstract not found in the transcription | ||
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ὅπως | line 1, second word; could also be ὅσον | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ρυθμισθῇ | line 1, last word; tentative reading | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ἀπο- | line 4, end of line; word divided across lines 4–5, reading uncertain | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 5, first word (ending in -σει), continuation of the divided word; illegible | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 5, word after ἡ; illegible (possibly a noun followed by μου) | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | λοιπῶν | line 7, second word | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | θὰ | line 7, short word before the last word; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ἀρνηθῶσιν | line 7, last word; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ὑπογραφὴν | line 8, first word; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 8, a word struck through by the writer; illegible under the deletion | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ἕνεκα | line 8, last word, after the deleted word | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ζητήματος | line 9, first word; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | σοῦ | line 10, first syllables, continuation of πο-; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 10, two words illegible; there is a caret or insertion mark between them | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | ἐπι- | line 10, end of line, word divided across lines 10–11 | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | λήψεων | line 11, first word; tentative | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 11, three words after μου illegible | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | … | line 12, first word illegible | |
| 2 | uncertain_reading | Βενιζέλος | signature; cursive, read from the expected signatory and letter shapes | |
| 2 | ocr_review | confidence 0.30; 22 uncertain spans in 53 words; agreement of two readings 0.90 | ||
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | el | ἀπο- […] ἡ […] | Η φράση «δὲν ⟦ἀπο-⟧ ⟦…⟧ ἡ ⟦…⟧ ὅτι αἱ Δυνάμεις …» είναι ελλιπής· πιθανόν «δεν αποκλείεται / δεν αποκρύπτω την ανησυχία ότι…», αλλά δεν μπορεί να καθοριστεί με βεβαιότητα. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | el | ἢ πο-σοῦ […] […] ἐπι-λήψεων μου | Το τέλος του τηλεγραφήματος είναι σε μεγάλο βαθμό δυσανάγνωστο. Το «ἐπιλήψεων» (;) είναι αμφίβολη ανάγνωση, ίσως «επιλήψεων/ενεργειών μου»· το νόημα της τελευταίας πρότασης δεν είναι σίγουρο. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | ἀπο- | Bölünmüş bir sözcüğün ilk parçası; olasılıkla 'ἀποκλείεται' (hariç tutulamaz) ama kesin değildir. Bu nedenle çeviride ⟦…⟧ olarak bırakıldı. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | ἐπι-λήψεων μου | Okunuşu ve anlamı belirsiz (belki 'ἐπιλήψεων' ya da başka bir sözcük); güvenle çevrilemediği için ⟦…⟧ olarak bırakıldı. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | ρυθμισθῇ δι' ἰδιαιτέρων συνεννοήσεων | 'ὅπως' bağlacı belirsiz bir okuma; 'düzenlenmesi için' biçiminde çevrildi. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | θὰ ἀρνηθῶσιν | 'ἐὰν ... θὰ' dizilimi koşul-sonuç yapısı olarak yorumlandı; ⟦θὰ⟧ için 'o takdirde' kullanıldı. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | en | ποζημιώσεων | The page begins with a truncated word, with the initial 'α' missing. It is restored as '[α]ποζημιώσεων' (indemnities) and continues the sentence from the end of page 1 ('the question of indemnities'). The 'of' is supplied from the genitive case. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | en | δὲν ἀπο- […] ἡ | Only the prefix 'ἀπο-' is legible. It is probably a form of 'ἀποκλείεται' ('is ruled out'), giving 'it is not ruled out that the Powers...', but this is conjectural. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | en | ἢ πο- σοῦ | Word split across lines; read as 'ποσοῦ' ('of the amount'), i.e. 'indemnities or the amount [of them]'. The rest of the sentence is largely illegible. |
| 2 | translation_uncertain_source | en | ἐπι- λήψεων μου | The word split across lines reads 'ἐπιλήψεων', which is not a natural form in this context ('seizures'). It may be a misreading of 'ἀντιλήψεων' ('views'), so 'views' is offered tentatively, giving 'my views'. |