Letter from F. Elliot to E. Venizelos, concerning the water supply to Athens.
68.4.1.013 · 1914 Μάιος 7/20 · Γαλλική · machine-generated, not reviewed
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Légation de Sa Majesté Britannique,
ATHENES.
7/20 Mai, 1914.
Mon cher Président,
Je suis obligé de revenir sur la question des droits
des ingénieurs anglais concernant les eaux et la canali-
sation d'Athènes.
D'abord je me base sur vos assurances réitérées que
Monsieur Kinzer était un juge et non un concurrent. Au-
jourd'hui vous me dites qu'il n'a jamais été question
d'un concours de plans. A quoi alors servait le juge?
Le 2/15 Mars 1911 j'ai parlé à Monsieur Coromilas,
alors Ministre des Affaires Etrangères, et l'ai prié de
faire
Son Excellence,
Monsieur E.Venizelos,
Président du Conseil.
Stamps and notes
- archival 411/13 top right, handwritten
- stamp Circular seal with a chalice/cup emblem and letters ⟦Ε Λ Ι Α⟧ around it bottom right, over the catchword
- other Faint violet ink smudge top right, below the archive number
- other Small pencil or ink mark top right, below the smudge
Uncertain readings
- ⟦faire⟧ Catchword at the bottom right, partly covered by the circular stamp. The reading is probable.
Demotic Greek
Πρεσβεία της Βρετανικής Μεγαλειότητας,
ΑΘΗΝΑ.
7/20 Μαΐου 1914.
Αγαπητέ μου Πρόεδρε,
Αναγκάζομαι να επανέλθω στο ζήτημα των δικαιωμάτων των Άγγλων μηχανικών σχετικά με τα νερά και την αποχέτευση των Αθηνών.
Πρώτα απ' όλα, στηρίζομαι στις επανειλημμένες διαβεβαιώσεις σας ότι ο κύριος Κίνζερ ήταν κριτής και όχι ανταγωνιστής. Σήμερα μου λέτε ότι δεν υπήρξε ποτέ θέμα διαγωνισμού σχεδίων. Σε τι χρησίμευε λοιπόν ο κριτής;
Στις 2/15 Μαρτίου 1911 μίλησα με τον κύριο Κορομηλά, τότε Υπουργό των Εξωτερικών, και τον παρακάλεσα να προσέξει
Στην Εξοχότητά του,
τον κύριο Ε. Βενιζέλο,
Πρόεδρο του Υπουργικού Συμβουλίου.
Turkish
Britanya Majesteleri Elçiliği,
ATİNA.
7/20 Mayıs 1914.
Sevgili Başkanım,
İngiliz mühendislerin Atina'nın suları ve kanalizasyonu ile ilgili haklarına dair meseleye yeniden dönmek zorundayım.
Öncelikle, Mösyö Kinzer'in bir rakip değil, bir hakem olduğuna dair defalarca verdiğiniz güvencelere dayanıyorum. Bugün ise bana, bir plan yarışmasının hiçbir zaman söz konusu olmadığını söylüyorsunuz. O halde hakem ne işe yarıyordu?
2/15 Mart 1911'de, o sırada Dışişleri Bakanı olan Mösyö Koromilas ile konuştum ve kendisinden
etmesini
Ekselansları,
Mösyö E. Venizelos,
Bakanlar Kurulu Başkanı.
English
Legation (Embassy) of His Britannic Majesty,
ATHENS.
7/20 May, 1914.
My dear President,
I am obliged to return to the question of the rights of the English engineers concerning the waters and the sewerage of Athens.
First, I base myself on your repeated assurances that Mr Kinzer was a judge and not a competitor. Today you tell me that there was never any question of a competition of plans. What, then, was the judge for?
On 2/15 March 1911 I spoke to Mr Coromilas, then Minister of Foreign Affairs, and asked him to
take
His Excellency,
Mr E. Venizelos,
President of the Council.
Open issues
| p. | Kind | Language | Text | Detail |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | uncertain_reading | faire | Catchword at the bottom right, partly covered by the circular stamp. The reading is probable. | |
| 1 | translation_term | el | Kinzer, Coromilas, Bailey-Denton, Stephenson, Schliemann, Elliot | Τα ξενόγλωσσα κύρια ονόματα αποδόθηκαν με ελληνική μεταγραφή (Κίνζερ, Κορομηλάς, Μπέιλι-Ντέντον, Στίβενσον, Σλήμαν, Έλιοτ). Οι προφορές των Kinzer, Schliemann και Stephenson είναι εικασία· η γραφή τους στα ελληνικά δεν επαληθεύεται από το κείμενο. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | el | faire | Η λέξη στο κάτω μέρος της σελίδας 1 είναι λέξη-οδηγός (catchword) και επαναλαμβάνεται στην αρχή της σελίδας 2 ως «faire attention»· αποδόθηκε ως ⟦να προσέξει⟧ διατηρώντας το σημείο αβεβαιότητας. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | faire | Sayfa sonundaki bu sözcük bir sonraki sayfanın ilk sözcüğünü (faire attention) tekrar eden bir sayfa-sonu çağrı sözcüğüdür; belirsiz okuma olarak işaretlenmiştir. 'prié de faire attention' ifadesine uygun olarak 'etmesini' diye çevrilmiştir (cümle: '...dikkat etmesini rica ettim'). |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | juge | 'Juge' (yargıç/jüri üyesi) burada 'hakem' olarak çevrilmiştir; Kinzer'in proje yarışmasındaki değerlendirici rolünü ifade eder. |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | Coromilas | Mösyö Coromilas, Fransızca metinde yazıldığı biçimde 'Koromilas' olarak aktarılmıştır; söz konusu kişi dönemin Yunan Dışişleri Bakanı olarak anılmaktadır. |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | Président du Conseil | Sözlükte yer almayan unvan; 'Bakanlar Kurulu Başkanı' (başbakan) olarak çevrilmiştir. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | faire | Catchword at the foot of the page, repeated as the first word of page 2 ("faire attention"). Kept here in its place in the transcription, after the address block, and translated as "make" (the sentence continues on page 2 as "take care that"). |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Président du Conseil | Official title of Venizelos as head of government; rendered literally as "President of the Council" (i.e. Prime Minister). |
| 1 | translation_term | en | la canalisation d'Athènes | "Canalisation" is ambiguous (piping/conduits vs. sewerage). Rendered as "sewerage" in line with the context of waters and drainage; it may also cover the laying of water pipes. |