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68.5.5.087 · 1912 Απρίλιος 10 · Ελληνική · makine üretimi, denetlenmedi
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Özgün metin (diplomatik transkripsiyon)
OCR: gözden geçirilmeli · claude/opus · İki okumanın uyumu 0.96
Αρ. 24 24 Φεβρ. 1912.
Ἐξοχώτατε
Συνωδὰ τῷ ἄρθρῳ 6 τῆς συμβάσεως τῆς ἀφορώσης τοὺς Βρεττα-
νοὺς ἀρχιμηχανικοὺς ἥτις ἀναφέρει ὅτι, ὅσοι ἐκ τούτων ὑπηρε-
τοῦσιν εἰς πλοῖα ἢ ἱδρύματα θέλουσι λαμβάνει διαμερίσ-
ματα νυμφευμένων ἐὰν ᾖ ἀνάγκη, λαμβάνω τὴν τιμὴν
νὰ ἀναφέρω ὅτι ὁ ἀρχιμηχανικὸς Πυροβολοτεχνίτης F. Carter
ἐζήτησεν ὅπως δοθῇ εἰς αὐτὸν διαμέρισμα νυμφευμένου διότι
ἐπιθυμεῖ νὰ μετακαλέσῃ τὴν σύζυγόν του.
Ὑποσημειῶ ὅτι ὁ κ. Carter ἐργάζεται ἤδη εἰς τὴν
Σχολὴν Πυροβολικοῦ ἥτις εἶναι ἐπὶ τῆς Ὕδρας, ἐν Πειραιεῖ
ἀλλ' ἐπειδὴ δὲν ὑπάρχει χῶρος δι' αὐτὸν ἐπὶ αὐτῆς εἶναι ἤδη
ἐγκατεστημένος εἰς τὴν Ν. Σχολὴν καὶ θὰ ἐπροτίμων
ἐκ τούτου ὅπως δοθῶσιν εἰς αὐτὸν διαμερίσματα νυμ-
φευμένου ἐν Πειραιεῖ ἢ δοθῇ αὐτῷ ἀντίστοιχος ἀποζημίωσις
Λ. Τώφης
Αρ. 39 10 Απρ. 1912.
Ἀναφερόμενος εἰς τὴν ἀναφοράν μου αρ. 24 τῆς 24 Φ. τὴν
ἀφορῶσαν τὸν πυροβολοτεχνίτην F. Carter λαμβάνω
τὴν τιμὴν νὰ ζητήσω ὅπως ἡ Υ. Ε. μὲ πληροφορήσῃ
ἐὰν ἐδόθη διάταξίς τις τοῦ ζητήματος διότι ὁ κ. Carter
ἐν ᾗ περιπτώσει ἡ σύζυγός του ἔλθῃ εἰς Ἑλλάδα θέλει ἔχει
ἀνάγκην νὰ ἀπενοικιάσῃ ἐγκαίρως […]
τῆς ἐν Ἀγγλίᾳ οἰκίας του.
Ρ. Οὐέριγκ.
Αρ. 40 13. Απρ. 1912
Ἀναφερόμενος εἰς τὴν ἀναφοράν μου αρ. 39 τῆς 10 Απρ.
τὴν ἀφορῶσαν παροχὴν διαμερίσματος νυμφευμένου
εἰς τὸν ἀρχιμηχανικὸν Carter ἐννοῶ ὅτι […]
[…] εἰς πρὸς τοῦτο λόγω τοῦ ζητήματος […]
Damgalar ve notlar
- archival 5/5/87 top right
- archival 5/5/87 (1) right margin beside the heading of no. 39
- archival 5/5/87 (2) right margin beside the heading of no. 40
- stamp Ε.Λ.Ι.Α. (circular collection stamp) bottom right
Belirsiz okumalar
- ⟦ἱδρύματα⟧ Word after 'πλοῖα ἢ' is unclear; this is the likely reading.
- ⟦ᾖ⟧ Short word before 'ἀνάγκη'. Could be ᾖ or ἤ; the accent is unclear.
- ⟦Πυροβολοτεχνίτης⟧ Title after 'ἀρχιμηχανικὸς'. Read by analogy with 'πυροβολοτεχνίτην' in no. 39; the ending is unclear.
- ⟦μετακαλέσῃ⟧ The verb could also be read 'μεταπαλέσῃ'; the intended word is probably μετακαλέσῃ.
- ⟦ἐγκατεστημένος⟧ Participle before 'εἰς τὴν Ν. Σχολὴν' is hard to read.
- ⟦καὶ θὰ ἐπροτίμων⟧ End of the line is very unclear, both the conjunction and the verb.
- ⟦Λ. Τώφης⟧ Signature of no. 24 is illegible as a name; this reading is tentative.
- ⟦διάταξίς τις⟧ Phrase after 'ἐὰν ἐδόθη' is uncertain.
- ⟦…⟧ No. 39: words after 'ἐγκαίρως' are illegible (possibly 'περὶ ἀποσπάσεως' or similar).
- ⟦εἰς⟧ No. 40, start of line 3: the page is damaged and stained here.
- ⟦ἐννοῶ ὅτι⟧ No. 40, line 3: the reading is doubtful.
- ⟦…⟧ No. 40, end of line 3 and start of line 4: the text is lost to damage and the stamp.
- ⟦λόγω⟧ No. 40, line 4: the reading is doubtful.
- ⟦ζητήματος⟧ No. 40, line 4: the reading is doubtful because of damage.
- ⟦…⟧ No. 40, end of line 4: the text is illegible or lost under the stamp and torn edge.
Dimotiki Yunanca
Αρ. 24 24 Φεβρ. 1912.
Εξοχότατε,
Σύμφωνα με το άρθρο 6 της σύμβασης που αφορά τους Βρετανούς αρχιμηχανικούς, η οποία αναφέρει ότι όσοι από αυτούς υπηρετούν σε πλοία ή ιδρύματα θα λαμβάνουν διαμερίσματα για έγγαμους αν υπάρχει ανάγκη, έχω την τιμή να αναφέρω ότι ο αρχιμηχανικός πυροβολοτεχνίτης F. Carter ζήτησε να του δοθεί διαμέρισμα έγγαμου, διότι επιθυμεί να μετακαλέσει τη σύζυγό του.
Υποσημειώνω ότι ο κ. Carter εργάζεται ήδη στη Σχολή Πυροβολικού, η οποία βρίσκεται πάνω στην Ύδρα, στον Πειραιά· επειδή όμως δεν υπάρχει χώρος γι' αυτόν σε αυτήν, είναι ήδη εγκατεστημένος στη Ν. Σχολή και θα προτιμούσα γι' αυτό να δοθούν σ' αυτόν διαμερίσματα έγγαμου στον Πειραιά ή να του δοθεί ανάλογη αποζημίωση.
Λ. Τώφης
Αρ. 39 10 Απρ. 1912.
Αναφερόμενος στην αναφορά μου αρ. 24 της 24 Φ., που αφορά τον πυροβολοτεχνίτη F. Carter, έχω την τιμή να ζητήσω να με πληροφορήσει η Υ. Ε. αν δόθηκε κάποια διάταξη για το ζήτημα, διότι ο κ. Carter, στην περίπτωση που η σύζυγός του έρθει στην Ελλάδα, θα έχει ανάγκη να εκμισθώσει εγκαίρως […] του σπιτιού του στην Αγγλία.
Ρ. Ουέριγκ.
Αρ. 40 13. Απρ. 1912
Αναφερόμενος στην αναφορά μου αρ. 39 της 10 Απρ., που αφορά την παροχή διαμερίσματος έγγαμου σε τον αρχιμηχανικό Carter, εννοώ ότι […]
[…] σε γι' αυτό το σκοπό λόγω του ζητήματος […]
Türkçe
No. 24 24 Şubat 1912.
Ekselansları,
Britanyalı başmühendislere ilişkin sözleşmenin 6. maddesi uyarınca; bu madde, bunlardan gemilerde veya kurumlarda hizmet edenlerin, ihtiyaç olması halinde evli personele ait daireler alacaklarını belirtmektedir; başmühendis topçu tamircisi F. Carter'in, eşini yanına getirtmek istediğinden kendisine evli personele ait bir daire verilmesini talep ettiğini arz etmekle şeref duyarım.
Not düşerim ki Bay Carter halen Pire'de, Hydra üzerinde bulunan Topçu Okulu'nda çalışmaktadır; ancak orada kendisi için yer olmadığından şu anda N. Okul'da yerleşmiş durumdadır ve bu nedenle tercih ederim ki kendisine Pire'de evli personele ait daireler verilsin veya buna karşılık gelen bir tazminat ödensin.
L. Tofis
No. 39 10 Nisan 1912.
24 Şubat tarihli ve 24 sayılı raporuma atıfla, topçu tamircisi F. Carter'e ilişkin olarak, Ekselanslarının bu konuda bir düzenleme yapılıp yapılmadığı hakkında beni bilgilendirmelerini rica etmekle şeref duyarım; zira Bay Carter, eşinin Yunanistan'a gelmesi halinde, İngiltere'deki evinin […] kirasını zamanında feshetmek zorunda kalacaktır.
R. Ouering
No. 40 13 Nisan 1912
10 Nisan tarihli ve 39 sayılı raporuma atıfla, başmühendis Carter'e evli personele ait bir daire verilmesine ilişkin olarak anlıyorum ki […]
[…] bunun için nedeniyle meselenin […]
İngilizce
No. 24 24 Feb[ruary] 1912.
Excellency,
In accordance with Article 6 of the agreement concerning the British chief engineers, which states that those of them who serve on ships or establishments shall receive married quarters if there is need, I have the honour to report that the chief engineer Gun Artificer F. Carter has requested that married quarters be given to him, because he wishes to send for his wife.
I would add that Mr. Carter is already working at the Gunnery School, which is on the Hydra, at Piraeus, but since there is no room for him on her, he is already accommodated at the N[aval?] School and I would therefore prefer that married quarters be given to him at Piraeus, or that corresponding compensation be given to him.
L. Tophis
No. 39 10 Apr[il] 1912.
Referring to my report no. 24 of 24 F[eb]. concerning the gun artificer F. Carter, I have the honour to request that Y[our] E[xcellency] inform me whether any arrangement has been made on the matter, because Mr. Carter, in the event that his wife comes to Greece, will need to give up the lease in good time […] of his house in England.
R. Wering.
No. 40 13 Apr[il] 1912
Referring to my report no. 39 of 10 Apr[il] concerning the provision of married quarters to the chief engineer Carter, I understand that […]
[…] to this end on account of the matter […]
Açık sorunlar
| s. | Tür | Dil | Metin | Ayrıntı |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ἱδρύματα | Word after 'πλοῖα ἢ' is unclear; this is the likely reading. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ᾖ | Short word before 'ἀνάγκη'. Could be ᾖ or ἤ; the accent is unclear. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Πυροβολοτεχνίτης | Title after 'ἀρχιμηχανικὸς'. Read by analogy with 'πυροβολοτεχνίτην' in no. 39; the ending is unclear. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | μετακαλέσῃ | The verb could also be read 'μεταπαλέσῃ'; the intended word is probably μετακαλέσῃ. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ἐγκατεστημένος | Participle before 'εἰς τὴν Ν. Σχολὴν' is hard to read. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | καὶ θὰ ἐπροτίμων | End of the line is very unclear, both the conjunction and the verb. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | Λ. Τώφης | Signature of no. 24 is illegible as a name; this reading is tentative. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | διάταξίς τις | Phrase after 'ἐὰν ἐδόθη' is uncertain. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | […] | No. 39: words after 'ἐγκαίρως' are illegible (possibly 'περὶ ἀποσπάσεως' or similar). | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | εἰς | No. 40, start of line 3: the page is damaged and stained here. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ἐννοῶ ὅτι | No. 40, line 3: the reading is doubtful. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | […] | No. 40, end of line 3 and start of line 4: the text is lost to damage and the stamp. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | λόγω | No. 40, line 4: the reading is doubtful. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | ζητήματος | No. 40, line 4: the reading is doubtful because of damage. | |
| 1 | uncertain_reading | […] | No. 40, end of line 4: the text is illegible or lost under the stamp and torn edge. | |
| 1 | ocr_review | confidence 0.40; 16 uncertain spans in 218 words; agreement of two readings 0.96 | ||
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | el | Υ. Ε. | Expanded as Υμετέρα Εξοχότητα (Your Excellency), judging from the address Ἐξοχώτατε. Probable but not certain. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | el | Ν. Σχολὴν | Abbreviation Ν. left unexpanded. It probably stands for Ναυτική (Naval School), but the source does not say, so this is not certain. |
| 1 | translation_term | el | ἐπὶ τῆς Ὕδρας | Ὕδρα here most likely means the warship Hydra, on which the Gunnery School was based, and not the island. The translation keeps the literal 'πάνω στην Ύδρα'. |
| 1 | translation_term | el | ἀπενοικιάσῃ | The verb is ambiguous: it could mean to let out (sublet) or to give up the rented house. It is translated as 'να ενοικιάσει'. The object is lost in the illegible ⟦…⟧, and the genitive 'του σπιτιού του στην Αγγλία' depends on that lost word. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | el | Λ. Τώφης / Ρ. Οὐέριγκ. | The first signature is marked uncertain in the source. Both names are transliterated and may correspond to Latin-script originals (e.g. 'Waring' for the second), but the originals are not given. |
| 1 | translation_term | el | F. Carter | The Latin-script name is kept as written in the source. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | el | εἰς πρὸς τοῦτο λόγω | The passage in report no. 40 is largely illegible and the syntax is broken (εἰς followed by πρὸς τοῦτο). It is translated literally and the meaning cannot be recovered with confidence. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | tr | Υ. Ε. | Muhtemelen Υμετέρα Ἐξοχότης ('Ekselansları'); metinde kısaltma olarak bırakılıp yanına köşeli parantezle açılımı eklenmiştir. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | tr | 24 Φ. | Φ. = Φεβρουαρίου (Şubat); çeviride 'Ş[ubat]' olarak açılmıştır. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | Ν. Σχολήν | 'Ν. Σχολή' kısaltması belirsizdir: Ναυτική (Deniz) Okulu ya da Νέα Σχολή olabilir. Güvenle açılamadığı için 'N. Okul' olarak bırakılmıştır. |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | ἐπὶ τῆς Ὕδρας | 'Hydra' büyük olasılıkla bir geminin adıdır (Topçu Okulu bu gemide bulunmaktadır); çeviride 'Hydra üzerinde' denmiş, gemi olduğu açıkça belirtilmemiştir. |
| 1 | translation_term | tr | Πυροβολοτεχνίτης | Rütbe/görev unvanı; tam Türkçe karşılığı kesin değildir ('topçu tamircisi' ~ İng. gunnery/ordnance artificer). Okuma da belirsizdir (⟦ ⟧ içinde). |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | Ρ. Οὐέριγκ / Λ. Τώφης | İmza adları aslındaki yazımla korunmuştur. Katalogda ilk ad 'Ρ. Ουέρινγκ' biçiminde geçmektedir; Latin harfli yazımı kesin değildir. İlk rapor (No. 24) başka bir imzayı (⟦Λ. Τώφης⟧, belirsiz okuma) taşımaktadır. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | ἀπενοικιάσῃ ἐγκαίρως […] τῆς ἐν Ἀγγλίᾳ οἰκίας του | Metinde ⟦…⟧ ile işaretli okunamayan bir sözcük vardır; 'evini kiradan çıkarmak' anlamı bağlama göre verilmiştir. Gerçek ifade farklı olabilir. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | tr | No. 40 (13 Nisan 1912) | Üçüncü rapor büyük ölçüde okunamamakta/eksik olup anlamı güvenle çıkarılamamıştır; yalnızca okunabilen kısımlar çevrilmiştir. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | en | Αρ. | Expanded as 'No.' (αριθμός); 'Φεβρ.', 'Φ.' and 'Απρ.' expanded as Feb[ruary], F[eb]. and Apr[il]. |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | en | Υ. Ε. | Υμετέρα Εξοχότης, rendered 'Y[our] E[xcellency]'. Opening address 'Ἐξοχώτατε' rendered 'Excellency'. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | συμβάσεως | 'Σύμβασις' could also be rendered 'convention' or 'contract'; 'agreement' chosen for the arrangement with the British engineers. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Πυροβολοτεχνίτης | Literally 'gun-technician'; rendered 'gun artificer', the usual Royal Navy rank. The reading in the first report is uncertain. Carter is called 'chief engineer' (ἀρχιμηχανικός) in the same sentence, so the original may be inconsistent in rank. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | ἐπὶ τῆς Ὕδρας | 'Hydra' is presumably the warship of that name (the Gunnery School being housed aboard her), not the island. This is an inference from the context ('no room for him on her'). |
| 1 | translation_abbreviation | en | Ν. Σχολὴν | Unknown abbreviation 'Ν.'. It may stand for Ναυτικήν (Naval) but this is not certain, so the abbreviation was kept in the translation with the guess in brackets. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | ἀπενοικιάσῃ | Means to give up or terminate the rental of the house (or let it out). 'Give up the lease' follows the catalogue abstract. The word following it is illegible, so the exact sense of the clause is uncertain. |
| 1 | translation_term | en | Ρ. Οὐέριγκ | The surname is transliterated from the Greek. The English original spelling is unknown (possibly Waring, Wearing or similar). The catalogue gives Ουέρινγκ, with 'ng' rather than 'ngk'. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | Λ. Τώφης | The signature to report no. 24 is an uncertain reading; transliterated as 'L. Tophis'. The signatory is evidently not the same person as the author of nos. 39 and 40. |
| 1 | translation_uncertain_source | en | Αρ. 40 ... […] | The third report (no. 40, 13 Apr. 1912) is largely illegible. Only its opening, referring to no. 39, can be translated with confidence. The remainder is rendered tentatively or left as ⟦…⟧. |